was assistant to drummer Bill Ward in the 1970s. Since working for Black Sabbath, he has completed many major tours, including UFO, the Scorpions, Tina Turner and the Rolling Stones. He lives in Stockton on Tees, Cleveland.

was road manager for Cumbrian band Necromandus before becoming personal assistant and close friend of Ozzy Osbourne during the Sabbath years. He lives in Cumbria.